We Are All Londoners
-Ken Livingstone, Mayor of London"This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty and the powerful; it is not aimed at presidents or prime ministers; it was aimed at ordinary working class Londoners, black and white, Muslim and Christians, Hindu and Jew, young and old, indiscriminate attempt at slaughter irrespective of any considerations, of age, of class, of religion, whatever, that isn't an ideology, it isn't even a perverted faith, it's just indiscriminate attempt at mass murder, and we know what the objective is, they seek to divide London. They seek to turn Londoners against each other and Londoners will not be divided by this cowardly attack... I wish to speak through you directly, to those who came to London to claim lives, nothing you do, how many of us you kill will stop that flight to our cities where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another, whatever you do, how many you kill, you will fail."
UPDATE: It makes me want to throw up that anyone would attempt to ridicule Mr. Livingstone for the above statement, but it seems some folks have no depth to which they won't stoop.
UPDATE II: This attack is not a result of our invasion of Iraq. As our friends at CC point out (although without abandoning their usual leftward finger pointing . . . even on a day like this fellas? come on) terrorist attacks were happening long before we took military action in Iraq or Afghanistan.
This, quite simply, has nothing to do with Iraq.
posted by Abe at 7/07/2005 10:39:00 AM
7 Comments:
I spent a short summer in London not too long ago and feel a small connection to the city. What a cowardly act by those responsible. I again fall back to my consistent position; we must use every resource to destroy this jihad movement. Ignore politics and cross any sovereign boundary to kill these folks because brutality is all they understand. Too bad our resources are dedicated to the unnecessary war in Iraq. But, what can you do now but finish what we started.
WMD's or not- Iraq is where most of the terrorists are these days. Let's kill 'em all!
Rocky's right -- Iraq is where most of the terrorists are these days. Didn't used to be that way. Hmmm.
Abe, I agree that there's no need for domestic finger-pointing over this senseless attack. But who's to say there's no connection to Iraq? Two major attacks -- Madrid and now London -- have struck at allies who supported our Breakfast in Baghdad. Seems like more than a coincidence.
JP - I don't doubt that radical muslim terrorists have been further enraged at the west because of the senseless war in Iraq. And, of course, we all know that the number of terrorist incidents have increased during Bush's reign.
But, this group of terrorists was attacking us long before the sideshow that is Iraq. I understand the argument that the needless killing of thousands of innocent Muslims in Iraq may have turned some moderates into extremists, and that argument is persuasive. But the terrorist groups were ready and waiting with open arms for those folks.
I guess, at bottom, it's like we're living with a fire that will occasionally flare up and burn us. Bush's misguided foreign policy has perhaps added some fuel to that fire. Still, it's hard to blame every flare-up on the kindling Bush has added, when the fire has been burning for a decade.
Well, RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!, you've got some circular logic going. Some of the the terrorists used to be in Syria and Iran and Saudi Arabia. They've headed to Iraq to be where the action is. Who put the action there?
The majority of terrorists used to be students or day laborers or disaffected youth -- who knows? Perhaps they've gone over to the Dark Side because the world's major military power invaded their country. The fact that "Iraq is where most of the terrorists are these days" is not a serendipitous occurrence with the presence of the US Armed Forces. In effect, the USA created those terrorists.
I'm not defending them or their tactics. Nor do I have any idea about what to do. I'm just trying to answer your questions. I will add this observation: the whole friggin' disaster bloomed from the seeds of a Lie. And that's really too bad for about 28,000 dead people.
A liberal is a man who leaves the room when the fight begins. --Klug
Anonymous, rrr, klug, your comment adds nothing to the debate. If your practice is to regurgitate conservative talk show propoganda we don't care for it on 2GL. That statement is about as persuasive as the far right screaming judicial activism by liberal judges. Now try thinking about the facts and then apply reason.
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